News -> INDReporter TUE, NOV 2 10:00PM by Walter Pierce

Go cup ban passes; Lafayette is saved!

After about three hours of passionate and sometimes pointless pontificating by both the public and the politicians, the Lafayette City-Parish Council Tuesday voted in favor of an ordinance that prohibits open alcohol containers downtown and on the Simcoe and McKinley strips. The law exempts certain city-sanctioned events like Mardi Gras, Downtown Alive!, ArtWalk and Festival International.

The so-called “go cup ordinance” passed by a 5-4 margin, with Councilmen Purvis Morrison (District 1), Jay Castille (2) Sam Dore (6), Don Bertrand (7) and Keith Patin (8) voting in favor; Councilmen Brandon Shelvin (3), Kenneth Boudreaux (4), Jared Bellard (5) and William Theriot (9) opposed the measure. The ordinance was voted down in September by the same margin. The difference Tuesday was Morrison, elected in October to be Scott’s next mayor, who changed his mind and voted “aye.”

In what would be a prelude to a cavalcade of downtown residents, business owners and other interested parties addressing the council during the public comment portion, Police Chief Jim Craft defended the ordinance both on constitutional and public-safety grounds: “Courts have ruled that communities can set standards and have certain standards. School zones — you can’t have a firearm in a school zone,” Craft reminded the council. “We do designate certain areas where we have special enforcement rules. ...Communities do it in certain areas at certain times.”

But Craft generally used the soft sell in pressing his case, emphasizing that opposition to the ordinance was not tantamount to opposition to law and order. “It’s back to the drawing board for us if it doesn’t pass,” he acknowledged matter-of-factly.

There was, to the chagrin of those awaiting a vote on the measure, the anticipated, drawn-out litany of allusions to threats to Louisiana culture and “it’s not really a problem” that have bedraggled the debate heretofore. Surprisingly, the most articulate opposition from the public came from attorneys Bill Goode and Kirk Piccione, both of whom have offices downtown.

The former argued that there are already laws that address the problems the go cup ordinance seeks to remedy: “Think about the practical consequence of this. All the laws on the books would take care of any of the situations.” The latter was a champion of individual rights: “Whenever there’s a problem we pass a new prohibition, we put in place another restriction. When people commit crimes with guns we say, ‘Let’s take away guns from everybody.’” (The jury is sequestered in deliberations regarding whether “we” say that, but the counselor’s rhetorical gifts are much admired.)

Others, including fellow downtown attorney Richard Broussard, alluded to the sense of existential and physical jeopardy citizens feel when strolling the gauntlet of Jefferson Street on weekend evenings, clumps of young men aggregated in imposing gaggles, blocking the sidewalks, testosterone steaming from their pores.

Arguably the most compelling argument in favor of the ordinance came from downtown restaurateur and former interim City-Parish Councilwoman Michele Ezell, who spoke in favor of a balance of economic interests downtown, including bars, but noted that the perception of downtown Lafayette has changed in recent years due to the growing problem of crowds that hang out and drink but do not patronize the bars.

“The dynamics of our little district have changed,” Ezell told the council. “It’s clear when we clean up in the morning that some of this activity is not generated by the bars. When I pick up a bottle of Wild Turkey, I can’t think of a bar that sells bottles of Wild Turkey.”

By the time the public comment portion wound to a thankful conclusion, councilmen Boudreaux and Shelvin, opponents of the ordinance from the outset (Shelvin’s District 2 encompasses downtown), spoke passionately about the disparity in priorities by law enforcement. Each represents districts with crime problems that far outpace those of downtown, yet each feels his district is given incommensurate attention by police. Both councilmen suggested, without saying, that race – downtown Lafayette especially has become an increasingly attractive party destination for blacks – may play a role in the perceived urgency of the ordinance.

“This is what Lafayette is resorting to – removing a group of people from a particular area because they’re not wanted,” Boudreaux opined following the public comment portion of the meeting. “Some say this isn’t about race. I hope that’s true.”

Councilman Bertrand, an ardent supporter of the ordinance who was instrumental in reanimating it after its September demise, is credited with the best line of the meeting: “I suggest that Rome is burning and no one smells the smoke.”


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written by Beau , November 03, 2010 - 03:21 am
any surprise they tried to hide this behind the elections tonight?
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written by downtown goer , November 03, 2010 - 03:32 am
i would love to see what all those suits are gonna do when the elimination of these cups doesnt affect anything and the "people" will still be hangin on the corners....
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written by Deconsolidate Now , November 03, 2010 - 03:34 am
The deciding vote on a Lafayette issue from the new Mayor of Scott. Need I say more for deconsolidation.
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written by Downtown Firefighter , November 03, 2010 - 03:44 am
Fantastic read Walter! Love your subtle sarcasm.
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written by be told , November 03, 2010 - 04:47 am
simply put, this wont change anything downtown.
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written by Maybe , November 03, 2010 - 10:22 am
Maybe we can convince the "unwanted" crowd to head to Scott to drink in the streets. The rest of civilized society can boycott patronizing Scott businesses. Not that there is much to boycott.
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written by Hamburgerhelper... , November 03, 2010 - 11:28 am
Downtowngoer, it sounds like you don't think this ordinance will accomplish anything. Then why the fuss?
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written by Hamburgerhelper... , November 03, 2010 - 11:31 am
Actually Deconsolidate Now, with just a city council in place it would have passed. It was the two "parish" morons that jeopardized the passing. On the "city" side it was 3 to 2. Maybe you are right.
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written by Southsider , November 03, 2010 - 11:50 am
If they REALLY wanted to get a handle on the problem, all they had to do was pass or enforce a NO LOITERING Zone, just like they(the police) did in the late 70's at the strip. You either had to be in the bar or in your car. Everyone knows its the people hanging outside the bars thats the real problem downtown, not a go-cup. Nobody has the kahunas to say it because they would then be labeled a racist. So, once again, lets punish all for a few bad apples, instead of tackling the real problem
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written by JG , November 03, 2010 - 12:28 pm
I could not agree more with this statement: "All the laws on the books would take care of any of the situations.”
What power does the go cup (or as I like to call it the geaux cup) ordinance provide Downtown police they don't already have?

I also think it's going to open a new world of problems, mainly what constitutes a geaux cup? If I am walking to a bar from my home Downtown and I have a beer in my hand am I subjected to the new ordinance? It's not a plastic or foam cup, it's a can. Perhaps this was addressed at the council meeting or it will be determined at a later date.

I agree with downtown goer. The geaux cup was a scape goat for larger problems facing Downtown. It would have made more sense to pass an ordinance that patrons of bars Downtown be 21+. This would have at the very least reduced the number of patrons Downtown making the crowds more manageable.

Will the litter in Downtown Lafayette be reduced? Absolutely. Will it deter the intoxicated people exiting bars at 2 am from staying Downtown after hours? Absolutely not. Will it reduce the amount of Downtown crime and violence on the weekends? Absolutely not.
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written by Happy , November 03, 2010 - 02:17 pm
This is great. Now if we could pass a law that you have to have a tie and coat to walk Downtown it would be a place worth going. Its time to stop the under dressed population from bumping into us better dressers
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written by Lou Rom on KVOL , November 03, 2010 - 03:34 pm
I cannot understand why go-cups should be allowed anywhere in the parish. The SAFEST place for people to leave a bar with a drink IS downtown and the strips, where they might actually be leaving to patronize another bar -- not immediately hop behind the wheel, drunk as a skunk. This vote was a vote for downtown's economic development over the parish's public safety. If you really care about public safety you ban go-cups and drive-thru daquiri huts everywhere.
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written by ragin_cajun , November 03, 2010 - 03:59 pm
“I suggest that Rome is burning and no one smells the smoke.”

Uhhh, who exactly lit this fire, Mr. Bertrand? With your history at the PZC, with Chief Craft's history on the boards of downtown development authorities....who exactly is Nero in your eloquent little analogy?
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written by Truthseeker , November 03, 2010 - 06:27 pm
Excellent article analyzing the pros and cons except for one factual error -- "Captain Kirk" Piccione's office is no longer downtown. Furthermore, Bill Goode's office is on Johnston Street, on the outskirts of the true "downtown" that appears to be the thorn in the side of certain folks, i.e., that section of Jefferson street from Vermilion to past Dwyer's.
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written by Hey YOu , November 03, 2010 - 06:50 pm
"written by Happy , November 03, 2010
This is great. Now if we could pass a law that you have to have a tie and coat to walk Downtown it would be a place worth going. Its time to stop the under dressed population from bumping into us better dressers "

I think that was the saggy pants thing and it failed - something about the constitution.


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written by Whatcup , November 03, 2010 - 07:07 pm
How is a "cup" defined. How is a to-go cup defined? So if I'm drinking out of crystal - then I'm good?
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written by beheard , November 03, 2010 - 07:43 pm
Lafayette is such a "backwards thinking po-dunk town". Every bar owner who voted for this ordinance is basically holding patrons hostage in their establishments. Those bars should take a hit in sales if patrons do their research. I agree with "Deconsolidate Now", it is not good when the NEW MAYOR of Scott is the deciding/changing vote on a downtown Lafayette issue.
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written by NORTHSIDIAN SHOTGUN , November 04, 2010 - 02:58 am
"Certain City Sanctioned Events, ETC. What they have told you couillions, Ha-Ha, the message you can't see for standing too close is that the "Elite have to exempt their eventful elitism frolicing events Downtown Alive,
Mardi Gras, EAster Sunday, Hee- Hee, I recall back in the 70's when our city fathers were having a big delivery of booze delivered to their downtown club for their Krewe, Mardi Gras Ball on a Sunday which at that time, to sell spirits ( BOOZE ) on a Sunday was against the law, when they were reported to have broken the law , HEY we're talking Police Chief, Sheriff, Mayor, etc and when they were busted, they said ... " We did not purchase the BOOZE on Sunday, we just drank the booze and got drunk on SUNDAY, AND WE DID NOT PAY FOR THE BOOZE ON SUNDAY, WE JUST DRANK IT AND GOT PIE-EYED SUNDAY, HOW STUPID WAS THAT, Tese were our city's Leaders, Drunk As Skunks Buying Liquor Against The Law, On A Sunday. Yep, me and my homie's delivered the booze and collected for the delivery then.
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written by Go Cup Monster , November 04, 2010 - 10:46 am
When is Lafayette going to wake up and stop covering the story up with go cups its all about keeping the blacks and riff raff out from downtown
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written by Solutionor , November 04, 2010 - 02:35 pm
Mai, In my profound conclusion in answer to the problema, the answer is to have the surveyman designate the points of infiltration by the riff-raff and minoritys and let the ambulancegreenman bid on construction toll b ldgs at these points, charge $ 25.00 toll to enter the downtown strip and shazaam, the problema is null and void, Poof ! AND the elite sons and daughters can frolic without being in danger of anyone changing their social caste, by unwanted minoritys.
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written by LaFondas Smasher , November 04, 2010 - 06:34 pm
"Lafayette saved"?? What ever happened to objective reporting? Way to stay neutral Independent Weekly. I'm being sarcastic just in case you didnt catch that.
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written by Double Expresso , November 05, 2010 - 01:06 am
So it's No Go Cup. I am glad that is over with, now let us get back to minor issues, like balancing the Federal budget.
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written by Unempirical Observer , November 05, 2010 - 04:57 am
Self-indulgent children.
When the h*** are some of these south la. people going to grow up?
Really, I want to know.
Of all the issues facing this world, this country, and this state (education, climate fail, indebture, infrastructure crumbling, social/economic injustice) we can have some of our citizens spending 3 hours on principle of arguing over the purity of constitutional intent of liberty from the enlightenment era?

Let's face it, most of y'all couldn't have purchased the fancy clothes, throw away plastic and import beer, mardi gras beads from child labor in china, automobiles, 2200 sq/ft homes or daily 30 mile commutes 223 years ago anyway. All us peasants would have lived in the countryside and farmed, and some of us would have lived in cities, engaging in trade and manufacture.
To say that our founding fathers have a lock on all knowledge of human nature for all time is a stretch.
The prescious "gaux" cup is a modern luxury you may come to miss, but your life and our culture will go on as it was before.
Now, put that beverage in a reusable container....I might be persuaded to reconsider.

Meanwhile, I'm just waiting for the Tea-Party revolt against the "liberal" Republicans who run Lafayette over issues such as this and traffic cameras and sales tax increases and arts funding and all the rest. It will make for interesting civic theater.
Meanwhile, will the real Progressive Democrats please stand up, please stand up.
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written by SOLUTIONOR , November 05, 2010 - 12:37 pm
XX EXPRESSO, Balancing the budget is a big brother term and heard most often pre-elections, the term was originated to pacify dumbasses who still believe in the tooth fairy, drink bottled water, and wear hush puppy shoes.
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written by SOLUTIONOR , November 05, 2010 - 12:43 pm
Solutionor says, ban the brokeass young blacks from Downtown.
The solution lies at the toll gate.
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written by ETEE , November 07, 2010 - 11:36 am
Inane. All you have to do is hang out with a Sonic (or Mickey D's, or BK) cup filled with a non-alcoholic drink, get arrested and sue the City for deprivation of your Constitutional rights. I see some money to be made here............
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written by Moving , December 12, 2010 - 02:19 am
When there's not enough crime in a city the police themselves will become the criminals. Sure there is crime in Lafayette, but show me a perfect place to live and I'll join you there. All this is going to do is allow the police more options to pick and choose who they wanna harass. Or maybe this is just gonna be another law that nobody wants to enforce, like having to be 21 to get a beer in a bar. What a big joke this will turn out to be. We're gonna have to pass two more ordinances to fix what this one is gonna screw up!
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