News -> INDReporter THU, FEB 24 12:11PM by Heather Miller

Developer, Tea Party spar over TIFs

Parc Lafayette Developer Glenn Stewart offered a heartfelt apology Wednesday night to Tea Party of Lafayette members following a fiery town hall meeting (photos below story) where he faced unyielding opposition to his proposed taxing districts to fund a luxury hotel and convention center — and responded by calling the Tea Party of Lafayette members idiots.

“I’m sorry I used the word idiot,” Stewart said after the meeting. “I should have said lunatic.”

Stewart, with the backing of City-Parish President Joey Durel and Lafayette Economic Development Authority President/CEO Gregg Gothreaux, is asking the City-Parish Council to approve two special taxing districts, known as Tax Increment Financing districts, which supporters say are necessary to fund a four-star hotel and convention center near River Ranch.

But the proposed additional 2 cent sales tax and 2 cent hotel occupancy tax at the hotel, and a 1 cent sales tax in the retail development that will surround the hotel, have caused an uproar from TPL members, who argue that the government-backed tax incentives are discriminatory against other developers and question whether government should dictate the types of private businesses required for the city’s success.

Stewart’s lack of dexterity toward the Tea Partiers prompted a near walkout and clearly didn’t help him in winning over his steadfast opponents. The audience, comprised almost entirely of TPL members, demanded an apology from Stewart, as well as City-Parish Councilman Keith Patin, who hosted the meeting to clarify the project’s unknowns.

Gothreaux says he supports this TIF because the taxes are specific to the project and those who utilize the facilities, which will be built using state-issued bonds that will be paid off with the revenue from the hotel and convention center’s use. Lafayette taxpayers, he says, will not be footing the bill if the project fails.

“The only people liable to pay off the bonds are the developers, period,” Gothreaux said during the meeting.

The luxury hotel and attached convention center have been identified by LEDA as an asset Lafayette needs to attract convention and business travelers who currently choose Shreveport and Baton Rouge for conventions because the cities have the connecting hotel and meeting space amenities that Lafayette can’t offer. Gothreaux and Stewart say the hotel and convention centers attracting convention tourism to other Louisiana cities have been built using the same kind of economic development districts being introduced here.

“The practical effect of this is other cities in Louisiana are going to capture the tourism and convention business, and we’re going to be left in the dust,” Stewart opined. “That’s the practical aspect of it if this gets turned down. If [Tea Party members] are opposed to TIFs, then they need to go to the state Legislature and change the law, not the City Council.”

One valid question raised by a former Lafayette Convention and Visitors Commission worker and not discussed before Wednesday was whether Lafayette has the commercial airline capacity to bring in the sizeable conventions being marketed for the hotel and convention center development. Lafayette is not a major metro area, and that would likely be a drawback in attracting much larger conventions due to the lack of significant direct flight service. Lafayette’s airport is also served by a number of hubs.

Like Durel and LEDA, LCVC is very much in favor of the project and doesn't think air service is a big obstacle because of the types of regional conventions Stewart will be going after.

“It would be more cost-effective for some of the meetings to fly into larger places where they can get direct flights,” says LCVC Public Relations Manager Kelly Strenge. If someone is coming into Lafayette from Los Angeles, for example, they would have to fly in from Houston or another city.  “We’re not a first tier city,” Strenge explains. “We’re like a second tier city, so we’re going to get those meetings that look for those second-tier cities for a variety of reasons — for affordability, because they don’t want to be in a big city or because of other types of things that attract them here like our technology or the university or sports facilities or even in some cases, our festivals and things like that would attract people here because they want to piggy back off of something fun to do. We would not be able to host a convention that had 40,000 delegates. The city is not that big.” Lafayette would more likely be vying for conventions in the 10,000-delegate range, she says. “Usually there will be some driving and some flying in those cases.”

Stewart said after the meeting a pending updated feasibility study he is paying for should have all of those specific answers in coming weeks.

Outspoken challengers to the taxing districts described the proposed project as “creating blight,” “government selecting the winners and the losers,” and even went as far as calling it “money laundering.” In the end, Patin, who has been under pressure from the Tea Party to vote against the project, would not commit to a no vote.

“What Keith Patin wants is irrelevant,” Patin said after the meeting. “Everyone here made valid points that most people can agree with one way or the other. I have to be attentive to both sides, and they’re always in competition with one another.”

The City-Parish Council is tentatively scheduled to vote on the ordinance creating the TIFs March 15. Gothreaux says more council votes will be needed after the March 15 vote for the TIFs and cooperative endeavor agreement to formally be approved.

As for Stewart, he’s not all that concerned about the project’s opposition and what impact it may have on the council’s decision. If the council votes him down, his original plans to build a smaller luxury boutique hotel and retail center will move forward ­— with or without the TIFs and the support of the Tea Party.

“I think [Tea Party members] are a bunch of wannabes who go around threatening our elected officials, and I think they ought to be ashamed of themselves,” Stewart said after the meeting. “I think they’re the lunatic fringe.”

For more on the city’s tif over TIFs, read The Independent Weekly’s coverage, “All in a TIF.”

 


Comments (27)add
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written by yesidoknow , February 24, 2011 - 05:58 pm
I thought we had a first-class convention center at the Cajundome and a Hilton hotel right across the street at the intersection of Cajundome Blvd. and Congress Street. Plus, there are a plethora of hotels all along Kaliste Saloom. Won't these hotels be negatively impacted by having yet another hotel? River Ranch needs to just form its own town like Broussard and Youngsville. That's where we're headed.
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written by Plumpy , February 24, 2011 - 06:07 pm
I believe Stewart want's to use the tax to lessen his risk. Which make's me wonder if Stewie has doubt's that his project will be profitable. I call Stewie, a modern day carpet bagger. If Stew babies project is so great. Why does Stewie need a TIF ? Why can't Stew baby come up with more investor's? I Don't support TIF's. Guess i'm another idiot or lunatic. I do not plan on shopping at Stew's Parc and hotel.
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written by ragin_cajun , February 24, 2011 - 06:13 pm
" bunch of wannabes who go around threatening our elected officials" I wonder if Theriot, Bellard, Boustany, Vitter, or Jindal feel threatened by the TEA Party? They're all opposed to higher taxes, and they'll tell you that.

And I'm sure that there are still a few proud liberal democrats around town that have no problem standing up and saying that they support higher taxes. I don't think they're threatened by the TEA Party, either.

If a politician feels threatened by the TEA Party, maybe it's because that politician doesn't have the spine to say what he does and does not support.

Citizen involvement in government is what keeps this country free. I can see why a well connected real estate developer seeking government backing for a loan would have a problem with that.
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written by James Melancon , February 24, 2011 - 06:27 pm
“I’m sorry I used the word idiot,” Stewart said after the meeting. “I should have said lunatic.”
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Gadahfi is using the same type words for his opponents too. Needless to say, it is not much of reason.
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written by GHM327 , February 24, 2011 - 06:29 pm
So now the Tea Party is trying to raise the common mans taxes to pay for a River Ranch hotel? Why should everyone in this city be expected to foot the bill for some dudes hotel? Im sick of all the 'Public Funding' going to individuals...

This reminds me of the boondoggle that is taking place downtown right now with that new building being built near the tracks. The one where AOC will be relocating to in a deal to put $100,000s of public funding into the developers pockets... We need more vocation centers [like the Super K project] and some sort of manufacturing base not more 4star hotels for the yuppie set!
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written by Compassionate One , February 24, 2011 - 06:48 pm
Reminds me of the Oprah show...AND YOU GET A CAR AND YOU GET A CAR AND YOU GET A CAR.

Only now it's LCG's show...AND YOU GET A HOTEL AND YOU GET A HOTEL AND YOU GET A HOTEL.

Only problem, most of the viewers/taxpayers are not in the studio audience!

I humor myself...LOL
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written by The Holy Goofus , February 24, 2011 - 07:26 pm
I'm really surprised that Durel and Gauthreaux and some Council people are buying into this.

TIF's have been around for a long time and our community leaders should know their basic purpose is to spur redevelopment in blighted areas or new development in under utilized areas. TIFs provide an incentive to developers to do something in areas they might not otherwise consider.

Using a TIF to spur development on some of the most expensive property in Lafayette is ludicrous from a public policy perspective. It is simply not needed. Let the market place decide what is doable.

Also, from an economic development perspective, if you use TIFs all over town...as suggested by our LEDA exec...then you significantly minimize the value of using TIFs to incentivise development in areas where there is much greater need to enhance property values, job creation, and overall standard of living.


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written by CORIMA , February 24, 2011 - 08:16 pm
It would better Lafayette, create jobs, and not cost a dime to the city or those who choose not to go there. Dr. Stewart is right, if you don't tike TIFS contact your legislator.
While at it, tell them you want to stop assistance for farmers, students, green projects, oil,
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written by Game Over , February 24, 2011 - 09:06 pm
Glenn Stewart "responded by calling the Tea Party of Lafayette members idiots."
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Sounds like a real charmer; knows how to win people over. A good candidate for the Dale Carnegie course.

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written by ragin_cajun , February 24, 2011 - 09:43 pm
CORIMA --

"not cost a dime to the city or those who choose not to go there." I heard Durel use that same logic from his soapbox on high at the City Council Meeting. So let's apply that same logic to other taxes. If you don't like TIF's shop elsewhere? I don't like high property tax rates, so I should move to another parish? I don't like higher sales tax, so when LCG or LPSB proposes that, are they gonna suggest I move to St. Martin Parish? I thought Lafayette wanted me here, that friendly Cajun Culture they're so hot to subsidize and all.

Businesses don't like high taxes, either. So unless they get preferential treatment, what if they choose to "vote with their steering wheel" and take their "sizzling steak" to some neighboring town or parish?

As for the farmers, students, green projects, oil, etc. Yeah, I heard similar logic when I called my Councilman about this. "Government gives preferential to business all the time". His statement, and yours, are both forms of the logical fallacy argumentum ad populum, or appeal to public opinion. Just because everybody believes does not necessarily make it right.

Are you suggesting that right and wrong are relative? What's wrong is acceptable if enough people do it? Is that it?


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written by BeauPartae , February 24, 2011 - 10:21 pm
I just read today about another hotel development in Baton Rouge asking for special treatment, just as another hotel development was given. ITS TRUE, IF YOU GIVE IT TO ONE, YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT TO ANOTHER!!! There are a coupla new hotels going up not too far, why weren't they offered this sweetheart deal? I believe the taxpayers, the voters, are saying they don't want the govt to give this development any special taxes. I'm no tea potter, but I'm not in favor of it. I don't give a rat's apple about the tea potters or this developer & I surely don't buy into the propaganda being used to sell this. Lafayette doesn't need more hotel space. Lafayette isn't losing business because we don't have ritzy enuf hotel and shopping space. AND THIS IS THE MOST WEALTHY AREAS OF LAFAYETTE & IT DOESN'T NEED TAX INCENTIVES FOR DEVELOPMENT. SHAME ON ANYONE WHO TRIES PROPAGANDA TO MAKE VOTERS BELIEVE THAT. I AM NO TEA POTTER, very far from it, but I don't like the misreprentation of this bogue scheme.
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written by Jack R'Abbot , February 24, 2011 - 11:03 pm
Doc-
They are lunatics AND idiots...I,like you, am a republican and give a wide berth to these local hicks who have appointed themselves TeaPartiers.
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written by Cajunhiker , February 24, 2011 - 11:58 pm
FYI
Lafayette Parish currently has 6 TIF districts, two created by Lafayette Consolidated Government, with the other four in Broussard, Carencro and Scott. For example, you are already paying extra sales taxes if you shop at Wal-Mart or Home Depot in Broussard.

If people live within a proposed TIF district, an election must be held. If the proposed TIF district is vacant property, the LCG Council only has to vote to create a TIF district.

Our State Treasurer John Kennedy, a fiscal conservative, likes TIFS as intended, for blighted areas and unique opportunities, but not for national big box store chains which would build a store with or without a TIF if a profit could be made, i.e., not for what Lafayette has done with the Target store along I-10.

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written by Southsider , February 25, 2011 - 12:10 am
TIF? meh, who cares? The BIG question is...did the Jerimiahs(Patins tongue in cheek nickname for the Tea Partiers) act up and have the cops called in to restore order or were they on their best behavior????? Anyone???
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written by Ophelia 46 , February 25, 2011 - 12:25 am
Mr. Stewart, Jack R'Abbot and CORIMA: Ah, yes, when you can't win on logic or the issues, you resort to name calling and demonizing the opposition. How's that new civility workin' out for ya, guys?
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written by Caps a Lot , February 25, 2011 - 02:01 am
Haha. Could you guys please use all-caps a little more please?

General points here. Focus on the points, and compromise. Why must there be sides and names? Really. I think it's time for a political coup..the way people are now a days.

Hahah. Tea Party. Pfft. Louisiana has a lot of issues. Keep up the work and citizenry everybody and maybe you'll improve your numerous weaknesses and weak biz/education atmosphere.
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written by Northsidian Shotgun , February 25, 2011 - 02:49 am
Glenn Stewart is a first Class Asho, "in the majority," and that is why, he has no problem finding it with either hand.....If you can't lam that Glenn, call me, I'll help you.
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written by NoThanks , February 25, 2011 - 03:24 am
So a public official calls a town hall meeting and declares in the paper that he's gonna call the cops if anyone gives him Shit,. The the developer opens the meeting by calling everyone in the room "idiots". Wow that's a real welcoming place. glad i didn't go. Don't feel like being publically humiliated for asking a couple of simple questions.
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written by Opponent , February 25, 2011 - 03:31 am
Already heard of two people running against Patin. How do you think that push card will read - My opponent and his developer friend thinks you're an idiot/lunatic. I don't. Vote for ME :) My opoponent thinks you should dedicate a tax called a TIF to his friend to pay for his fancy hotel. I don't. Vote for ME :). My opponent voted to increase your taxes 10 times. I won't - Vote for ME :) My opponent is a lap dog for the mayor. I'm not. Vote for ME :) My opponent swtich to the republican party right before he ran. I've been a republican for 35 years. If you want the real thing, vote for ME :) Less Tax, Less Government, Pro Life. Back to Basics.
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written by James Melancon , February 25, 2011 - 01:08 pm
All TIFs are loopholes. TIFs place one private business above others. In short, TIFs are legal corruption, instead of bribing officials (under the table) they give a tax benefit while maintaining the aura of economic development.
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written by Parish Pal , February 25, 2011 - 06:26 pm
If Patin has competition for re-election- we can bank on everyone of the other 8 having it as well! I expected it for the Parish Boyzzzzz---looks like a long election seasson ahead of us. I am glad Patin is bringing more info to us on the TIF, DR.Stewart, and opening up communication with the Tea Party. The passion of this issue is a clear example of the climate in our country. We all need to look both ways like Patin. It would be nice to see any opponent to Patin talk about their qualifications and attributes rather than do negative campaigning as OPPONENT is suggesting-- he may be laughing- but none of these current issues are laughing matters.
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written by CORIMA , February 25, 2011 - 06:54 pm
Ophelia 46, please show me any "name calling" in my comments. Yours, however, did not address or defend the issue.
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written by al , February 26, 2011 - 04:32 pm
Joey Durel and his “rubberstamp” council (except Theriot and Bellard) as well as his boy Greg Gothreaux of LEDA as well as the Chamber of Commerce, are all about spending and taxing, and if you are against it you are an “idiot”. What arrogance and stupidity. You can’t buy prosperity. If a project doesn’t makes sense, government money to prop it up will only undermine everyone else. I can’t figure out whether they are corrupt or just stupid.
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written by James Melanson , February 26, 2011 - 06:16 pm
written by CORIMA "Ophelia 46, please show me any "name calling" in my comments."
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For some people, expressing your opinion equals name calling.
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written by Northsidian Shotgun , February 27, 2011 - 06:07 am
OH, al February. To be Corrupt, or to be just Stupid,
basically it goes like this,
" To be Corrupt is to be JUST STUPID ".
Greg donated one of his gonads to his mentor for a title,
"CEO", HAH.
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written by Northsidian Shotgun , February 27, 2011 - 06:14 am
Three cheers for " Opponent, " now if we can find another opponent to replace our local deputy dog Crafty Craft,
& DA Double AA, HIC Harson, we'll call it the "Community Brew Tea. Take that to the bank.
Anyone want to put their campaign sign in my yard, just call.
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written by BeauPartae , March 04, 2011 - 12:49 pm
Oh, how could I have missed the "convention center" part? I really feel negligent about that. My taxes paid for the REALLY NICE CONVENTION CENTER AT THE DOME and that's all I care to pay for or subsidize or support. Again, there are HUNDREDS OF NEW HOTEL ROOMS down that road and nearby roads. What about some sweetheart deals for them? They've invested in Lafayette without asking for special favors & I oppose kicking them in the teeth with a TIF in one of the wealthiest areas of the city. Is this another example of this area of town considering itself above and beyond the rest of us?
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